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In a few months,our African Grey has gone from a healthy, talking parrot to a bird that is plucking all its feathers, weak voice, lost balance, difficulty perching,, no talking, shaking and stressed to the point where we feel we are losing her. Took her to vet, got Vitamin a shot. No luck.

She's too stressed now to travel for a blood test. We're at our wits end. Please help. What can be done?
Jerry

Answered by Ellen K. Cook, D.V.M.:

Hi Jerry- I am quite concerned about your Grey. Her symptoms suggest a serious health condition that needs the attention of a qualified avian veterinarian immediately. Some veterinarians do make house calls; you might check the Association of Avian Veterinarians AAV to locate the avian veterinarians in your area. If you cannot find a veterinarian who does house calls, you must then take your bird to a qualified avian veterinarian.

Sometimes we have no choice but to do stressful things to save our birds' lives. If we don't, we will lose them for sure!

Good luck,

Dr.Cook

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Dear Phoebe, My question relates to my Blue and Gold Macaw, Lulu, and her biting behavior. She is about 13 years old and was hand raised by my husband. He died January 23,2009 from cancer. He had intentionally backed off from handling Lulu in July of 2008 so that I could begin to develop a relationship with her.

We live in a warm climate so she was outside for the summer. She and I began to get along a bit better when we moved her inside in October 2008. We began to have breakfast together every day - "Breakfast with Lulu". Our breakfasts dropped off for a time during the latter stages of my husband's illness. It was one of his dying wishes that I keep her. I really want to try to do that for him, but every time she bites me it reduces me to tears. I've resumed "Breakfast with Lulu" and most of the time she's ready and willing. She steps up for me to remove her from her cage. She easily goes from my hand/arm to a perch. She sometimes wants to eat or drink juice and sometimes doesn't. I try to go with the flow. I've also recently begun trying to have "Bathtime with Lulu". We're still experimenting with that and she easily goes with me to the bathroom and easily goes back to her cage. The times that she's bitten me (drawn blood or left a noticeable bruise) happen while she is on her cage.

This is a very emotional issue for me. I want to honor my husband's wishes, but I'm still afraid of Lulu and not adept at reading her body language. If I decide to give her up I want to make sure she goes to a conservation group not a breeder or individual home. I'm afraid for her future. Please help us.

Anne Kiper

Answered by Phoebe Green Linden:

Hello Anne, First, please accept my heartfelt condolences for the recent loss of your husband. You are in a season of profound feelings.

I can tell from your letter that you care deeply about Lulu and her legacy, so it’s important to get this relationship, and decisions about it, right. Thank you so much for asking for my comments; I’m honored to help you and Lulu honor the memory of your husband and Lulu’s great friend.

You and Lulu have been through a lot with each other, in sickness and in health, as it’s said. Your shared history will deepen your relationship, and, as long as you’re willing to keep investing in it, you and Lulu can develop a great companionship.

I could be wrong, but something tells me your husband’s two favorites can make a go of it. Let’s consider how you and Lulu are already compatible: she already goes on your arm readily, you have some nice routines established, and it seems like you enjoy being together, so you have a lot to work with. You’ve been through rough times, but you’re ready to learn, and you want to stay together.

My 13 yr old Blue and Gold macaw, Georgia, says “Go for it!” I agree – let’s get started! We are going to approach your situation using both behavioral analysis and emotional intelligence.

Kick Back, Watch a DVD
First, please order PollyVision I and II and watch the DVD’s yourself first, then with Lulu. Note the behaviors of the wild parrots and note which ones she already does. Have her watch it, too, if and when you are both ready to watch. When we see those wild macaws doing what they do, it makes us stop and think, and it makes us want to get active, too, to change, enhance, and build habitats that encourage parrots to act more and more like real birds. I think it’s really important that our parrots are first parrots, meaning that they flap, climb, swing, talk, preen, interact, hang out and goof off; then, together, we are companions.

What Does Lulu Want?
So, consider some new enhancements for Lulu – check her favorite toy and see if it’s time to order more; be sure the places you put her are designed for her comfort, and with her values, in mind, not ours. Our macaws really like their get-a-grips from WPT supporter Star Bird; they also love the bamboolies from this same line. Between those two enrichments, hours of enjoyment. Giving Lulu a new place to hang out – especially if it’s a place she really, really likes, will signal the beginning of a new relationship. http://www.parrots.org/estore/catalogue/Page8-9_Natural%20Toys.pdf.

Make a list of treats Lulu likes, such as walnut, almond, wheat toast with a smudge of peanut butter, warm corn bread, cracker and withhold these except for as a reward for going into the cage. No more free treats! To start, use pieces that are about ½” x ½”, but keep experimenting with size so that you give the most appropriate amount.

One really great “fact” is that when Lulu does “parrot stuff” (which looks a lot like showing off, being pretty, preening/posing, having a fluff head, etc.,) she’s automatically reinforced. Humans like these behaviors, too. Remember, Lulu is happy to be beautiful and your admiration of her can be genuine, gentle, appropriate and meaningful. When we like and encourage the behaviors she already wants to perform, then we’re working like a team. Or better, like a flock. Lulu will like your praise and as you notice her more and more, you’ll appreciate her more and more.

To Build Compatibility, Note What’s Incompatible
Let’s think for a moment about behaviors that are incompatible with biting. Meaning, if Lulu is doing xyz she is in no position to bite. Behaviors that are incompatible with biting include preening, waving, turning around, turning around and fanning the tail, scratching the head with one foot, then with the other, doing an arabesque and fluff and puff, to name some. When Lulu does any one of these behaviors, it’s physically impossible for her to also be biting. So, you want to catch her doing these behaviors and give her a treat or praise so that these behaviors increase and biting falls away. There are so many things Lulu probably already does that have nothing to do with biting! It’s your great assignment, Anne, to note these and find the reinforcement she wants that leads to more performances of behaviors incompatible with biting.

Approach Lulu and see what she wants to do, if anything, with you at a particular time. She might want breakfast with you, maybe not. Some other time, then. No biggie. If she doesn’t want juice now, maybe later. It’s not a big deal to you (except you know how yummy juice is. . . ) and she’ll probably want it tomorrow, anyway. Maybe she wants to flip her wings, fan her tail, scratch her head or whistle: those are all cool parrot behaviors, so praise her for what she’s doing that’s right.

The Cage as a Treat Delivery Station
Because you’ve isolated the “problem area” to be Lulu’s cage, you’ve given us a terrific tool with which to work. Sounds like Lulu has started to view “going back into the cage time” as an arbitrary decision based on human convenience. One that makes her march to orders and then get jailed as a result. Who wouldn’t rebel?
Instead, let’s construct circumstances in which Lulu goes from out of her cage to inside her cage and back out again, then in again, etc., according to a mutual agreement between you. It’s important for Lulu to be her own agent and participate in decisions. When possible, let her come right back out of the cage after she’s decided to go in it, or after you’ve asked her to go in and she does.

Once she knows that every trip into the cage does not result in solitary confinement, she’ll be more willing to go there and happier to go on her own.
Here’s what you can do: If Lulu is hanging out on her cage, see what she wants to do like puff or whistle or look cute. Select behaviors incompatible with biting, watch for those, and get ready. Tell her what she’s doing that you love and put a tiny bit of walnut or corn bread or toast in her food dish inside the cage. If she doesn’t go down right away and eat it, you know she will later because a) she hasn’t had any treats for a while and b) because she’s a macaw. If she goes down right away and eats it, that’s a good bird, too. Then she can come right back out of the cage if she wants to. That’s one session. Everybody should be happy – she’s gotten a treat, you’ve seen her go into her cage, she’s practiced a very good skill.

In the next session, check the treat cup. If there’s still a treat in the cup, you’ll know it’s not reinforcing enough for her either because she’s not hungry, or because she values something else. If she’s just not hungry right now, don’t worry – she’ll get there, especially for nuts. Now, talk quietly together and wait for her to do something praiseworthy. Immediately put another treat in the cup (not too big, not too small – she needs to be motivated for the treat). Let her practice going into the cage for a treat, then coming out (or not) on her own. Then going back in later for more treats.
My parrots have different treat preferences which they change according to a secret schedule, so they inspire me to be creative. One day it’s cracker, the next it’s black berries, then again, maybe it’s rice.

Also, build some leeway into your schedule and the training situations. For instance, if you have to leave the house at 5:00 PM and she’s still out at 4:59, that’s a planning problem. Instead, at 2 or 3 PM, give her a treat in her cup, have her either go get it on her own right away, or wait for a while. Perhaps she’ll want you to put her in the cage after all (whichever she decides). Then gently close the cage door with a compliment to her manners and put a bunch of walnut pieces in the cage, just because. Set up the cage situation so that Lulu wants to go back into it; comes and goes from the cage as is reasonable and safe; and views the cage as a treat-delivery station.

Random Acts of Cuteness
Additionally, you’ll want to keep noting behaviors that are incompatible with biting, like, say, scratching the head, and be sure you’re either dropping a treat in her cup, or giving her something else she values (like a head ruff) in response to random acts of cuteness.

Anne, I know you want to keep Lulu. And just as important, you want her to be happy. I’m sure that a few skills will help you develop a relationship with Lulu that goes beyond just living together. Please keep writing me, OK? I think it will be interesting for WPT members to read an ongoing discussion rather than just a one-time Q & A. so if that’s something that appeals to you, let’s try it!
All best,
Phoebe Greene Linden
Santa Barbara Bird Farm

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I have noticed two yellow patches(oblong shape)under my cockatiels skin at the back of his neck, on each side of his back bone. These patches are changing to a deeper yellow colour, and I was wondering could this be a medical condition developing. He is 20 years old and had been pulling his feathers out. Although he doesn`t pull so many out now, some feathers have not grown back again. Can you advise please?

Answered by Dr. Brian Speer, DVM:

Yes - this could be a medical condition developing. I would advise that you have your bird examined for diagnosis. Obesity, lipomas, Xanthomatosis, and other skin specific disorders all are possible here.

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Hello Dr Speer,

I have read Steve Marin’s informative and extensive post to Renate about her Ducorps eating wood and would like to follow his recommendation and get your advice on this. I have just been confronted with a similar case. This concerns a mature female b/y macaw who is (probably) about 20 years old and has spent time with other birds, but also long periods alone. From about 2002 until 2005 she was with two other macaws and an LSC2. One of the macaws died of aspergillosis, but the other two birds are well as of this writing. For the last four years she has been alone due to her unsociable behavior towards other birds. She is now in nesting/hormonal mode and is chewing wood, as usual at this time. However, 6 days ago there were tiny pieces of wood in her first morning dropping, which was copious and watery (also as usual). Since then, close examination of her feces reveals an average of 6 tiny pieces of wood, along with 2 to 4 slightly digested seeds and the odd undigested piece of pinenut in each dropping – these could be adhering to the wood as it passes through, since the amount of undigested seed/nut that is passing through does not total the (moderate) amount she eats. On two occasions, there was a very slight trace of what looked like fresh to slightly dried blood in the stools - the shade of red makes me think it was from the lower digestive tract. I am aware that PDD and Megabacteria can cause dilatation of the proventiculus. She has not, however, been to avian vet for examination as her health certainly appears good – her body weight is normal, feces are, with the exceptions noted
above, of normal amount, color, and consistency. Her front is completely bare of feathers, which helps assess her outward physical condition. She is alert, bright eyed and her facial skin color is very good. Her appetite is normal, although she gets two extra nutritional soft feeds per day. She also displays normal behavior for a nesting/hormonal female, although she is a solitary bird. There is now also a slight swelling developing in the soft region between her sternum and cloaca – could this be the beginning of an egg? Is this situation something to be alarmed about? Is there some protocol that should be followed to help determine a diagnosis? Does she need to be seen by a vet urgently? Thank you so much for your time and comments.

Answered by Dr. Brian Speer, DVM:

Based on your description, your bird should be physically examined by an experienced avian veterinarian.The passage of undigested material in the feces is not a normal event, and at present time, it seems that your bird is not overtly visibly ill otherwise - offering you the time to obtain a diagnosis and have time to treat most effectively. This should not necessarily be viewed as an urgent thing, but just time to get an evaluation and a clear diagnosis established - whatever it turns out to be.

The lump that you see at the loweer abdominal area may be an egg, but it also could be due to the dilation of a ventriculus or proventriculus, or any other coelomic organ as well.

"Megabacteria" is now an outdated term that we used to describe infection with the yeast organism, Macrorhabdus ornithogaster. This is a very very very very rare diagnosis in macaws, and I'd not be overtly that concerned about this infection in your bird. More importantly, whatever is causing the ventricular dysfunction needs to be named and diagnosed accurately - and for this, it is time to get going to the doc.

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Hi Phoebe,

I have an African Grey male called Nico, now 1 year and 9 months old. We have him since he was 13 weeks old - he was hand-reared from about 8 weeks on. What I'd like to ask is: when does an African Grey reach puberty and how long does this last for approximately?

Lately I notice a change in his behavior which seems to be related to sexual behavior:

1) A particular 'calling' sound to me;
2) Displaying the first signs of wanting to give up food;
3) Persistently pushing boundaries (big time grin);
4) Trying to get my attention by showing off e.g. hanging upside down with wings slightly spread;
5) Occasionally more testy, e.g. trying to bite

All these behaviors I ignore by walking away or occasionally distracting his attention to something else. He has had previous periods in which he mainly pushed the boundaries for a while, which we also saw as part of his natural development, of growing up. This time his behavior clearly has a more sexual tinge and I'm aware that parrots can display sexual behavior before they have started puberty.
However, is it possible that at 1 year and 9 months old Nico could be starting puberty?

With many thanks,
Miriam

Answered by Phoebe Green Linden:

Hi Miriam, Thanks for writing World Parrot Trust and explaining the situation with Nico, your 21 month old African Grey parrot.

All the behaviors you describe are within the bounds of normalcy for parrots young and old. Making some noise? Yep. Trying to get your attention? For sure. Pushing boundaries? If you mean by that exploring what works and what doesn’t, yes, he’ll do that.

Parrots who push their boundaries too vehemently might be too confined. Better for us if we safely and reasonably push back the boundaries we've set for our birds as we train them every step of the way. We allocate space, time and resources to be sure our captive parrots don’t need to ache, beg for or bite to get what they need and want.

If, for example, he wants your undivided attention and gets it when he's "trying to bite," then he'll try to bite more.

Miriam, my advice on puberty is this: don't let thoughts on "puberty" pigeon hole your Grey. We don't want to waste valuable fleeting time with our parrots when so many bright activities and interactions are before us.

He's ready to be taught solutions to any problems, and because the solutions exist, let's get going.

Training by the Book

In Good Bird! author and trainer Barbara Heidenreich reminds us that positive reinforcement works, which is excellent news. So, pick a treat that Nico likes and use it (ultra-small bits of it) for positive reinforcement. If he becomes disinterested in one treat, have substitutes available, including verbal praise, a whistle, tickle or whatever Nico likes. It can not be said enough that the treat has to be something that Nico likes, he has to be ready to receive it. At almost two, he might change his mind tomorrow and like something else, so be prepared!

Hopefully, you'll start to get a long list of things that Nico likes to do, eat or get. Sensitivity and reason will guide you. Also, let the booklet Good Bird! guide you. A copy is coming to you via WPT from me. You can read it through in one evening and start Nico's training off on the firmest footing. Then, if ever you feel "stuck" again, you'll have it for reference. It's invaluable, just like Nico.

Miriam, because you wrote to World Parrot Trust, I know your goal is to avoid doing anything to make Nico event the slightest bit uneasy. Nothing that harms the relationship, and everything that is good for relationship -- that is the goal. The result is a relationship between you and Nico that is built upon mutual trust.

The best way for humans to build trust with parrots is for us to get to know them physically. That's why being able to read parrots' body language is important. It's both art and science as I'm sure you and Nico have already discovered. But there’s more -- the ways parrots use feathers to express their state of being are myriad and deserve more commentary than this space allows, so please refer to the booklet once it arrives, OK?

One behavior, the rouse, is "when a bird puffs all of it's feathers out and then shakes all of its feathers." (p.15) is one of my favorites to reinforce. We call this "fluff and puff" and it gets a lot of praise in my flock. It seems calming and cleansing, like a tension relief behavior.

Emotional Intelligence: parrots’ point of view

Miriam, another way we get to know our parrots is emotionally, so be sure your interactions with Nico center around a compassionate emotional intelligence that guides you as you constantly upgrade the environments in which Nico’s behaviors occur. Positive relationships center around environments that encourage him to be physically active and engaged. Reward him when he makes pleasant noises and be sure those sounds come from a toned, fit and healthy body. Always be on the look-out to ensure that he's staying happily receptive to the rewards offered. If he changes his mind, be nimble.

Throughout training, Nico's point of view might be very different from human perceptions, so extra sensitivity is needed as together, you mold a relationship between companionable species. It's a gentle, pliable community we build, not a clamshell of demands that we clap tightly onto each other's beings.

Praise can be a enthusiastic “Good Bird!!” or a smiling nod – as long as it’s what Nico wants, he’ll try to get more of it.

Check the Environment

Environmental enrichment is always our first, foremost and often ultimate tool in behavior modification.

Be sure you have a current up-to-date list of what Nico likes to do, eat, where he likes to go, at what times and how often. Spend some time just watching him to see new behaviors and note with interest those that increase companionship, exercise and other healthy habits.

It's good to get a lock on objectivity. Let's make sure our parrots live in places where they get to be parrots first, companions second. Look at the objects Nico enjoys and where he likes to hang out. An environment replete with what parrots like is the best environment for parrots. That’s where we see good behavior.

The more environmentally suited your habitat is to supply him with what he needs as a parrot and companion, the more interesting your shared relationship. You challenge yourself in a friendly way to find more and more things and places he likes. The resultant diversity of parrot-appropriate experiences you and he experience together are what challenges him.

When you take a close and compassionate look at Nico's environment, you might notice things he no longer enjoys as much as he did say, 4 months ago. If there's an enrichment he particularly likes (and you can tell because it’s nearly destroyed), try enriching it further, moving it to a cool new place, or adding another one somewhere else. Try to look at his environments -- cage, play gyms, baskets, and so forth -- from his point of view. He might enjoy a new basket or shower perch, or maybe he'll play more with some of his existing toys of they are spruced up and re-situated.

Environments designed from a parrot's point of view are set up according to parrot priorities. There's plenty of space, light, friends and privacy. Stuff to do and a place to get away from it all are available to all.

Timing is important, too

Training sessions stop and start when everyone is ready to learn. Participation can change moment by moment, so if the session feels strained or like it’s taking too long, wrap it up. Parrots like to make the choice to stop any session, too. I always think the best training sessions end when the parrots decide to destroy an ear of corn, search for a bit of walnut, or see what’s going on outside.

Rather than setting up a situation (due to timing, usually) where Nico's hanging upside down with his wings slightly spread causes you a problem, try making the time/space/priority to allow that behavior. It’s a great important exercise for your healthy young bird – see if flapping his wings is reinforcing and encourage him to do so for a good long while and well before sleep time.

If you want him to stop regurgitating, reinforce a behavior that’s incompatible with regurgitating, like flapping. Especially hanging upside down when flapping -- that's really incompatible with regurgitation – but it’s a very cool way for an active parrot to work out. That’s why hanging upside down and flapping is high on our list of Good Stuff to Do.

Wild Guys

Along those lines, I heartily recommend the WPT DVD "Where the Wild Greys Are", a copy of which is also being sent to you with my compliments. I love watching the wild greys and suspect you will, too. A word of caution -- pre-screen it out of earshot by Nico as you will want to turn the volume down in certain parts before he hears it!

The reasons to watch wild greys center around your pre-teen grey who would, I image, be one of the saucy, acrobatic and nimble greys we see in this highly interactive wild flock. Here we see and hear a part of the inimitable culture of greys: landing in and taking off from tree-tops, making racket and singing like angels, mingling, foraging and checking out elephants. This DVD really expanded my sensibilities about the sacrifices captive greys make in order to be our companions. It helps us re-valuate the substitutes we provide to captive parrots.

Rewards that stay rewarding

All in all, Miriam, I know you and Nico will do great together as long as you’re both ready and willing to keep learning. You first! Please read Barbara’ book and keep it handy, watch the DVD for inspiration, get ready to keep making changes, be watchful and sensitive and keep Nico’s priorities at the top of your schedule. Your rewards can be life-long companionship with an amazing creature.

Best regards,
Phoebe Greene Linden
Santa Barbara Bird Farm
Santa Barbara CA


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I am concerned regarding my 20 year old cockatiel. I think the curved part at the front of his throat is swollen. Could there be a health problem here?

Answered by Dr. Brian Speer, DVM:

Yes, there could be a problem, but there may also not be. I'd recommend that you have your bird examined to allow proper address of your concerns.

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Thank you for answering my question on pellets. I have a further query regarding same which I would like your advice. I notice there are some `preservative free` pellets, and I like the idea of making my bird`s diet free from preservatives. However, I am concerned if there could be the danger of them turning stale and what should I be aware of?

Answered by Dr. Brian Speer, DVM:

There is always concern with spoilage, and this should be a bit more of a concern if you are specifically choosing to feed items or products that lack preservatives. Simple recommendation: follow the recommendations of the manufacturer of the diet you are choosing to feed. grin

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Hi. Would anyone know why a bird with a naturally black beak would get a white spot on the dorsal aspect of the tip of the beak? Two of my three Patagonian Conures have this new development as of this winter. Could it be caused from lack of sunlight?

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Cindi-

Answered by Dr. Brian Speer, DVM:

Dear Cindi, Those are likely "normal" color changes that are in those photos. a bit of rubbing and wear on the outer aspects of the keratin will expose the colors that I see, and this is not uncommon in many dark billed species such as this. It appears that the last bird photo suggests to me that the bird has no abrasive surfaces in its enclosure to enable normal self grooming of exfoliating keratin from the lateral aspects of the upper mandible gnathotheca.

[Editor's note: Changes in beak coloration have also been noted in wild Patagonian Conures. Nestlings and fledglings until they are about 4 months old have white bills.]

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My question is regarding pellet food. I want to add some pellets to my cockatiels food so as he doesn`t eat an all seed diet. On checking the ingredients I found they included ground millets,ground sunflower seeds,sucrose,salt,oats,artificial colours/flavours,zinc amongst others. Would this not be the same as if he was eating these seeds? Also I read somewhere,not to give birds salt and zinc was toxic to them. Can you advise please.

Answered by Dr. Brian Speer, DVM:

A pelletized or formulated diet product is, overall, a step in nutritional support for most companion parrot species. The big difference between these products and a seed mixture, is that there is uniformity in what is being consumed, and a balance of the nutrition being delivered - which does not occur nearly as well when birds are fed a varied seed mixture diet. The seeds that would be available for a wild cockatiel to eat are going to also have a very different nutritional make up than those domestically produced seed mixtxures, most likely.

And salt and zinc are both essential nutrients. In excess, both can potentially cause harm. Deficiencies of both will cause harm. Diagnosis of toxicosis is not as simple as many folks may want to believe - leading to issues of overdiagnosis and incorrect and sometimes even harmful treatment regimes. There is alot of incorrect and outright pseudoscience out there, particularly about zinc poisoning, and you need to be very critical of the scientific accuracy of rmany of the information that you may receive.

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Hello Glenn, Could you advise me on a diet for my cockatiel that would get his weight down? I don`t want to loose him. He is 20 years of age and weighs 120 grams and he doesn`t seem to want to fly now. I stopped giving him the cockatiel seed mix which contains sunflower seeds and have been giving him canary and budgie seed, but still his weight doesn`t come down. He doesn`t eat pellets and doesn`t take much fruit or vegetables.

Thank you,
Elizabeth

Answered by Glenn Reynolds:

Hello Elizabeth,
120 grams is heavy for the average cockatiel, but there are some that are larger. A lot of it has to do with blood lines, ethical breeding standards in your bird's background, etc. It would be helpful to know what your bird's average weight has been over a long period of time. Furthermore it would be helpful to know if a qualified veterinarian has determined him to be obese.

If he truly is over weight your only choice is to get him off of the high fat diet and increase his level of activity. There are a lot of reasons beyond obesity to do so. Fatty liver disease comes to mind, as well as diabetes, and simply a lack of proper nutrition.

I don't know that anyone fully knows the correct diet for a parrot of any given species. You will find there are as many diets as there bird owners. This is not to say that people aren't feeding their birds properly. What I am saying is that on the research end; although, we are learning a lot more about feeding parrots, there is still a lot to learn. The magnitude of the number of different species in captive circumstances makes this even harder. Wild parrots are geographically located all over the world and in many cases have diets dictated by food availability in that given region. That said you can't necessarily try to feed a captive parrot the same diet it's wild relative would eat in it's natural environment. Foraging birds burn a lot of fat in their daily quest for food. Captive birds don't. Many wild birds eat food items that aren't fully ripe. Un-ripe foods will have a different nutritional make up than the same food once it has fully ripened. Generally we can't purchase those food items in the same stage of development as it is in when wild parrots are eating them.

A broad range of food items in your bird's diet is the best way to go. I use a mix of pellets (about 50% of the daily intake), mixed fresh vegetables and greens (about 30% of the daily intake) and make up the other 20% with fruits, nuts (for larger birds) and a small amount of high quality seed mix. Many people add sprouts, bird breads, bird muffins, etc. I do too now and then. Parrots' nutritional needs do vary by species, and you should spend some time researching what other people are using successfully with cockatiels.

I have found that in most cases the statement that, "My bird won't eat pellets", or "My bird won't eat vegetables" has more to do with the owner than the bird. I don't mean to insult anyone. I am being truthful. You have to find the motivation to be persistent, and you have to be creative. Your bird's long-term health should be the primary motivation.

In my opinion the first step is for you to make a financial investment large enough to motivate you to follow through. Take your bird for a complete work up at a qualified avian veterinarian to see if he has any obvious nutritional deficiencies. Some deficiencies can be found on physical exam, such as a vitamin A deficiency. Others will require a complete work up including blood tests. Your veterinarian will take a look at the results and make suggestions. If one of those suggestions is to add a formulated diet don't go out and purchase a couple of pounds of pellets or ask a manufacturer for a free sample to see if your bird will eat it. Doing so makes little to no investment on your end and won't result in you being persistent. Purchase enough to last a few months keeping in mind that the pellets should be changed out daily.

Now that you have a substantial financial investment to keep you motivated you need to get creative. Try soaking the pellets in some sort of sweet fruit juice such as pineapple juice to make the smell and taste of the pellets more attractive to your bird. If this works gradually reduce the amount of juice and soaking time until your bird is eating the pellets without the soaking. Try melting peanut butter in a bowl and stirring pellets in to coat them. Once your bird starts eating them gradually reduce the amount of peanut butter. Try mixing the pellets with canned corn kernels, so that the pellets soak up the juice. Once your bird starts eating the pellets gradually reduce the amount of corn. Please note, I am not saying that pineapple juice, peanut butter, or corn kernels is a healthy diet for your bird. These are simply tricks that I have found to work on my own birds. The purpose at this point is to modify your bird's diet and eating behaviors. Always offer up new foods in a separate bowl, and don't starve your bird while you are making the changes. If you add new foods to the same bowl as the seed he is now eating he will most likely dig through the bowl and throw out the new food items to get to what he is familiar with. If you withhold food he will get frantic and fixate on only what he currently knows to eat.

As far as vegetables and greens go you have to get creative with them too. Try cutting them in different sizes. Try hanging them from the cage with a clothespin to make them more like a toy . Try stuffing them in a hole in a toy. Try using them as treats. If you often handle your bird let him see you eat them and offer some to him at the same time. Make them a play time toy.

Above and beyond all of the suggestions I have made, take your bird off of his feeding schedule. You don't want him to know when his next meal is coming. If he does he will always know when he is going to get the foods he likes and hold out on eating the food you want him to eat. Wild birds may forage on somewhat of a schedule, but they often don't know when they will find their next meal; therefore, they are more likely to eat what is available. Feeding your bird off schedule can result in a "psychological hunger" even though your are not actually withholding food. This can create the same results in him being more willing to eat what is available.

Once you have changed his diet you will need to get just as creative in thinking of ways to make him more active. Parrots are smart, but you can be smarter. Invest in his long-term health both monetarily and in persistence. Make it YOUR goal to get him to eat a better diet. You will find the more variety you can get him to eat the easier it will be to add even more new food items to his daily intake.

I hope this works for you,
Glenn

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Hi Dr. Speer - My question is regarding keeping cockatiels and cockatoos close to other parrot species. I have often heard that most parrots should not be kept close to any Cacatuidae species. This is because the dust from the cockatoo/tiel could give other species respiratory problems. How much truth is there in this and how often do you see birds with respiratory problems due to being kept close to cockatoos or cockatiels? I keep a Jenday Conure and a Lesser Sulphur-crested Cockatoo in separate cages in the same room. Is that safe without an air filter? Of course, I do keep the cages clean. Would a Hahn's Macaw and a Cockatiel be okay to keep side-by-side in separate cages? I am thinking this would be okay but wanted to see an avian vet's opinion. Many thanks for your time!

Answered by Dr. Brian Speer, DVM:

There is an allergic pneumonitis issue seen in Macaws (best documented in Blue and Golds) associated with feather dust and dander, often from cockatoos or grey parrots. This condition may certainly occur in other psittacine species, but is much less commonly encountered or documented. I am not aware of this condition being documented in Aratinga species - yet. Generally, a good management start, considering your concerns and concerns, would be to place a good quality air filter near the dusty species's cage, which will functionally remove their dust, and protect your pulmonary health as well as your other pet bird's health.

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Recently my 20 year old cockatiel does not want to fly. I leave the cage door open when I am at home, and he used to come out and fly around. I try to encourage him to fly but with no success. At a check up recently my avian vet said he was a bit overweight - he only weighs 4ozs. I am trying to reduce his weight and have cut out the usual cockatiel mix with sunflower seed, oats, etc., I have been giving him canary seed along with budgie seed, I buy the packet of budgie seed for the added vitamins. He doesn`t always take the apple,carrot,brocolli I put in his cage but will always take a cornflake, I only give him one a day. I checked his weight and he is still the same. What is best to do so that he gets some exercise?

Answered by Dr. Brian Speer, DVM:

A cockatiel that weighs 4 ounces is approximately 120 grrams. Very likely, your bird is overweight, as you have suggested. I would recommend that you work with your veterinarian to formulate a weight reduction plan that incorporates enrichment of activity (foraging, etc) in combination with a functional reduction of calorie consumption per day. It is probably a bit too intrusive and less appropriate to "force" your bird to fly, as stated.

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I have two male Goliath Palm Cockatoos 2.5 years old and one male Hyacinth 8 years old along with three female Hyacinths each 4.5 years old. All have a very low lymphocyte count under 1. Tested in November , December and now January . Their Avian Vet is Dr Elliot at the Onderstepoort veterinary research University in Pretoria South Africa. Everything else in the CBC is normal along with eating , flying , playing. All virus tests come back negative. Their weights has been constant for at least 12 months. Their day consists of being woken up in their bird room and given fresh fruit and veg. They then go outside to a 188 sqm flight for the day. they have mixed nuts ( checked ) and palm nuts along with Kaytee chunky. At 16h00 they come in to the house for time with me. At 18h00 they go into their stainless steel sleep cages inside and have a hot soft food mix (Harrisons , Purity baby food, Coconut , Walnut oil , mashed banana . Kaytee macaw hand rearing ) before getting Mac nuts ( checked ) and Palm nuts. Lights out around 19h30. Do you have any suggestions as to cause or what can be done to raise the Lymphocytes ?
Many thanks
Trevor

Answered by Dr. Brian Speer, DVM:

Trevor - viewing the description you have posted here, I am first and foremost concerned that the hematologic abnormalities you are seeing are either laboratory error or artifactual changes, rather than representative of a true problem within these birds. I would not suggest "treatment" of this abnormality for this reason, but would strongly suggest that you confer with your veterinarian about interpretively what these results may mean, including artifact or stress-related changes.

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Dear Mr. Cravens,
I have had my 7 year old Grey Sparkle for 2 years now. I re-homed her from a young couple who couldn't look after her and their 2 children at the same time. Sparkle will not bathe. She is terrified of bathes and spraying. I suspect spraying was used as a punishment because the previous owners have been less than helpful when ask about Sparkle bathing. I have tried allowing her to take a bath at her leisure. I have tried taking her into the shower with me to no avail. I have even tried giving her leaves of lettuce with lots of water on it and she will have nothing to do with it.

She keeps her skin in great shape through preening and her skin is not dry. I just worry she needs a bath. I am at ropes end on this one. Does anyone have any ideas that might help Sparkle get over her fear of baths? Any help at all would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rodney J. Semones

Answered by E.B. Cravens:

Dear Rodney, It has been my experience that many African parrots will not bathe in their water dish and if not trained young, can be afraid of hoses or spray bottles. Your lettuce leaves attempt was on the right track, but a more positive way to bring out your Grey's instincts would be to get a good sized, thick leafy bough of some soft-leaved tree--not oak for example, but more elm or poplar or plum. When she is accustomed to perching in the branches or being near them on her perch, get a spray bottle filled with warm water and spray the leaves near her but not on her. Concentrate on feet level and spraying a VERY LIGHT mist up in the air to sprinkle down on the leaves and a bit on her head and back. Make imitations of her most joyous sounds while you are doing it and go about it very patiently. If she backs off, stop getting her misted and just do the leaves until they are soaked. Then go away and let her react. This procedure has coaxed many of my timid bathers to begin romping through the wet leaves on their own.

If you take her into the shower, just put her up on a wet stable towel on the shower curtain pole and let her watch you and soak in the damp warm air and the humidity--even that is good for her. She may eventually become comfortable enough that you could gently splash her a bit and get her used to water as nothing to fear. Again choose a habitual joy "shower noise" to utter to show this is supposed to be fun!

Good luck and keep us posted on her progress.
EB

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Dear EB, I have a Jardines parrot and a Senegal. They are both about 7 months old. My Jardines doesn't fly as much as my Senegal (don't know if this is a special issue- I live in a flat). When she does fly around she seems to tire more quickly than my Sennie and pants if they have been going after flying around for a few minutes. The panting only lasts for a few of seconds. My Sennie also pants as well but this is only after going absolutely ballistic. Is this normal and how can I get them to do more exercise.

Regards, Lee

Answered by E.B. Cravens:

Dear Lee, First of all congratulations for allowing your parrots to retain their wing feathers and fly around!
 
More and more conscientious pet bird owners are discovering the joy (and convenience) of having flighted psittacines in the home.
 
It is usual that the larger the parrot, the more it will have to work and hence tire when flying inside a house. This explains why the Jardine's pants more strongly than the Senegal after flight. Just maneuvering indoors is much more difficult for a larger bird. In an outside or wild situation, the Jardine's would be flapping briskly and flying very long distances in order to keep fit. This is not possible indoors.
 
The way I have solved this problem with many of my flighted indoor pets is to trim the first two narrow strong ribbed primary flight feathers at the front of the wing. This effectively cuts down the flight capacity for speed by about 15% depending upon species and athleticism of the parrot; but it does not seriously affect maneuverability. The pet will then begin to flap more exuberantly to accomplish the same flight skills it is used to and will begin getting stronger and making up the 15% difference. The choice can then be made whether to take a third feather or part of the third outermost feather--something we do not always do.
 
Pay particular attention to the speed and noise of your Jardine's flight as that will tell you how much effort he or she is expending. As Jardine's are stocky psittacines, they do need more primaries to get around easily--than say a cockatiel or conure. So it would be most prudent to trim only one of the first two feathers, on both wings the same of course, at a time; then wait a week and do the second.
 
Also it would be well to take the time to examine your feeding regimen. Most of us overfeed our parrots and keep them 5-10% overweight all the time--especially in the overheating of winter homes. Cut back the fat and heavy carbs in a few food items and replace it with sprouted pulses, fruit pips like pomegranate, melon, papaya, passion fruit, fig, etc. and your bird will trim down accordingly.
 
Good luck.
Aloha, EB

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